Likely to keep harassing shipping out of Venezuela instead of ground war, says Ret. Col. Jack Jacobs
December 22, 2025 • 4m 6s
Brian Sullivan (Anchor)
00:00.110
let's
talk
about
this
and
more
and
get
critical
analysis
with
retired
colonel
jack
jacobs
colonel
jacobs
it's
it's
great
to
have
you
on
although
i
feel
like
when
i
have
you
on
or
when
we
talk
to
you
it's
because
there's
something
that's
very
tense
in
the
world
do
you
think
it
is
Brian Sullivan (Anchor)
00:14.430
possible
that
the
united
states
will
go
to
some
form
of
a
physical
war
with
venezuela
Jack Jacobs (Retired Colonel)
00:22.270
it's
unlikely
it's
difficult
to
envision
how
we
would
do
that
but
we've
tried
that
in
other
countries
down
through
the
ages
and
have
never
been
never
been
satisfied
with
the
results
were
there
in
vietnam
or
did
it
iraq
afghanistan
and
none
of
that
stuff
turned
out
very
well
i
Jack Jacobs (Retired Colonel)
00:40.070
think
the
most
likely
event
is
that
we
will
continue
to
harass
the
shipping
out
of
venezuela
to
intercept
sanctioned
vessels
and
make
life
extremely
difficult
for
clients
of
venezuela
for
a
variety
of
reasons
not
the
least
significant
of
which
is
something
that
you
mentioned
the
Jack Jacobs (Retired Colonel)
00:59.750
intro
and
that
is
that
we
would
the
government
would
dearly
like
to
have
access
uh
ultimately
to
venezuelan
oil
and
venezuela
as
we
know
has
if
not
the
most
certainly
among
the
the
biggest
reserves
oil
reserves
in
the
world
one
of
the
principal
reasons
we're
going
after
and
a
Jack Jacobs (Retired Colonel)
01:23.430
lot
of
the
other
stuff
that
we
see
is
theater
and
ancillary
to
the
true
objective
brian
Kelly Evans (Anchor)
01:30.470
well
to
your
point
i
mean
we
have
these
odds
on
kelsey
now
that
we
can
track
colonel
jacobs
it's
kelly
here
and
it
says
you
know
what
do
you
think
the
odds
are
that
you
know
maduro
is
out
by
february
and
it's
only
around
twenty
percent
right
now
twenty
percent
before
before
feb
Kelly Evans (Anchor)
01:43.150
maybe
rise
to
fifty
fifty
by
may
the
fact
that
we're
even
betting
on
this
i
mean
people
understand
that
stump
that
something
is
stirring
right
so
where
would
you
direct
our
attention
to
next
Jack Jacobs (Retired Colonel)
01:52.830
well
one
of
the
things
to
keep
in
mind
about
all
this
is
is
adage
about
the
dog
once
the
the
dogs
chasing
after
the
car
when
it
gets
the
car
what
does
it
do
with
it
unless
there's
some
kind
of
plan
for
a
governing
venezuela
after
maduro
leaves
to
the
extent
that
he
does
leave
Jack Jacobs (Retired Colonel)
02:12.800
all
this
doesn't
make
a
great
deal
of
sense
we
have
to
keep
in
mind
also
that
one
of
the
things
we're
attempting
to
do
is
influence
other
others
other
than
venezuela
here
i
mean
the
the
large
majority
of
of
of
venezuela
's
oil
as
you
said
a
lot
of
it
goes
to
cuba
exactly
Jack Jacobs (Retired Colonel)
02:34.030
some
of
it
goes
to
china
but
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
it's
not
a
big
player
in
the
market
at
the
moment
at
least
partially
because
of
the
strictures
that
we
put
on
venezuela
but
do
you
Kelly Evans (Anchor)
02:45.920
think
in
other
words
that
this
is
about
venezuela
specifically
is
it
also
about
cuba
is
there
is
there
a
plan
right
now
for
what
happens
if
there
that
country
is
pushed
to
a
brink
because
you
know
just
looking
at
the
front
page
of
the
wall
street
journal
today
talking
about
it
Kelly Evans (Anchor)
02:59.550
you
mentioned
china
obviously
that's
a
leverage
point
as
well
Jack Jacobs (Retired Colonel)
03:04.140
yeah
there
is
no
plan
that
has
been
articulated
it's
difficult
to
envision
what
happens
on
day
one
after
everything
falls
apart
what
happens
inside
cuba
and
we
have
better
relations
now
with
cuba
than
we've
had
since
nineteen
fifty
nine
but
we're
talking
about
governance
here
Jack Jacobs (Retired Colonel)
03:22.550
who's
gonna
govern
cuba
unclear
who's
gonna
govern
venezuela
there
we
know
about
maria
machado
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
does
she
really
have
the
structure
behind
her
to
actually
govern
venezuela
at
a
time
after
which
venezuela
is
actually
going
to
go
to
pieces
there'll
be
Jack Jacobs (Retired Colonel)
03:41.910
difficulty
in
the
streets
so
our
what's
happening
here
a
lot
of
it
like
i
said
is
theater
a
lot
of
it
has
to
do
with
demonstrating
that
the
united
states
has
a
great
deal
of
influence
in
this
in
this
hemisphere
and
and
also
to
make
life
extremely
difficult
for
those
who
are
Jack Jacobs (Retired Colonel)
04:02.590
beneficiaries
of
venezuelan
oil
kelly
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