Why KBW's McGratty says Citi will be the top Big Bank performer of 2026
December 22, 2025 • 4m 37s
Melissa Lee (Host)
00:00.070
shares
of
city
jumping
nearly
three
percent
today
hitting
levels
not
seen
in
more
than
seventeen
years
our
next
guest
says
the
stock
will
be
the
top
big
bank
performer
next
year
for
more
on
the
twenty
twenty
six
outlook
for
financials
KBW
head
of
US
bank
research
chris
mcgrady
Melissa Lee (Host)
00:14.390
joins
us
here
on
set
K
B
W
is
a
stifel
company
chris
great
to
have
you
with
us
great
to
Chris McGratty (Head of US Bank Research)
00:18.910
see
you
so
Melissa Lee (Host)
00:19.590
why
city
what's
the
backdrop
here
Chris McGratty (Head of US Bank Research)
00:21.190
well
cities
in
the
midst
of
a
multi
year
turn
around
right
they're
simplifying
the
business
they're
exiting
countries
and
they're
taking
the
roe
from
bottom
tier
to
average
and
you
can
make
a
lot
of
money
going
from
bottom
tier
to
average
so
the
stock
's
been
a
great
stock
this
Chris McGratty (Head of US Bank Research)
00:37.710
year
but
if
you
look
at
the
valuation
it's
just
breaking
through
tangible
book
right
the
last
ten
fifteen
years
that's
been
the
ceiling
we
think
the
narrative
on
deregulation
and
capital
markets
helps
bring
that
ceiling
higher
in
Melissa Lee (Host)
00:49.830
terms
of
the
deregulation
narrative
i
mean
that
has
been
you
know
some
of
the
fuel
for
this
bank
trade
for
this
entire
year
how
far
are
we
in
terms
of
realizing
those
gains
it's
Chris McGratty (Head of US Bank Research)
01:00.230
it's
less
of
an
unknown
you
know
people
expect
it
if
you
look
at
expectations
expectations
for
capital
return
broadly
are
up
about
thirty
percent
this
time
versus
a
year
ago
but
if
you
think
about
it
there's
still
a
hundred
to
two
hundred
basis
points
of
excess
capital
that
is
Chris McGratty (Head of US Bank Research)
01:15.030
yet
to
be
put
in
our
projections
into
buy
side
sell
side
models
so
there's
still
the
the
use
of
capital
debate
right
we're
talking
about
buybacks
we're
talking
about
dividends
we're
talking
about
inorganic
growth
but
earnings
earnings
have
a
real
big
impact
on
the
trajectory
of
Chris McGratty (Head of US Bank Research)
01:28.550
estimate
revisions
has
a
big
correlation
over
my
career
to
stock
so
earnings
revisions
for
the
largest
bank
up
sixteen
percent
year
on
year
that's
two
X
the
smaller
banks
so
those
banks
are
outperforming
but
for
good
Guy Adami (Fast Money Contributor)
01:39.190
reason
chris
we're
making
the
same
argument
for
cities
so
let's
play
the
math
game
i
don't
think
it's
deserved
of
a
JP
morgan
price
a
tangible
book
but
somewhere
between
where
it
is
now
and
where
JP
morgan
is
makes
sense
does
one
eight
somewhere
between
one
point
eight
and
two
Guy Adami (Fast Money Contributor)
01:53.830
makes
sense
because
if
that's
the
case
this
stock
has
another
sixty
five
seventy
percent
of
upside
Chris McGratty (Head of US Bank Research)
01:59.350
yeah
that's
not
our
base
case
that
feels
a
little
aggressive
but
what
one
two
to
one
five
you
can
make
a
lot
of
money
right
JP
morgan
's
trading
it
three
times
and
they're
delivering
twenty
percent
returns
cities
target
for
next
year
is
ten
to
eleven
and
i
think
what's
really
Chris McGratty (Head of US Bank Research)
02:14.310
going
to
be
important
as
you
look
into
may
they
have
a
very
important
investor
day
on
may
seventh
i
think
what
they're
gonna
talk
about
there
and
investor
days
have
been
the
top
of
the
du
jour
for
the
banks
they're
gonna
talk
about
that
medium
term
target
probably
going
twelve
Chris McGratty (Head of US Bank Research)
02:27.750
thirteen
fourteen
they're
gonna
give
you
the
path
over
the
next
couple
years
if
that
happens
they're
gonna
be
compounding
book
value
they're
gonna
be
simplifying
the
business
and
earnings
estimates
are
growing
up
so
i
think
there's
a
lot
of
room
between
my
number
and
yours
so
Tim Seymour (Fast Money Contributor)
02:38.030
chris
you're
focused
on
on
on
city
but
broader
now
for
me
every
time
you
go
into
the
people
sometimes
get
burned
are
you
where
are
you
on
them
for
twenty
twenty
six
Chris McGratty (Head of US Bank Research)
02:48.430
i
think
selective
would
be
the
word
they're
making
a
lot
of
money
they're
building
really
great
competitive
companies
through
acquisitions
our
experience
studying
this
for
twenty
years
is
as
that
is
occurring
as
they're
building
more
profitable
companies
the
stocks
don't
Chris McGratty (Head of US Bank Research)
03:03.510
necessarily
outperform
but
would
i
be
doing
anything
differently
no
i'd
be
i'd
be
deploying
the
capital
to
where
the
highest
returns
are
but
we
are
selective
so
one
of
the
names
we
really
like
is
citizens
citizens
bank
again
this
is
a
pre
you
know
pre
described
you
know
the
roe
Chris McGratty (Head of US Bank Research)
03:18.310
improvement
story
is
baked
right
they're
going
from
ten
to
fifteen
sixteen
percent
just
basically
the
passage
of
time
another
reason
we
like
it
you
get
that
capital
markets
exposure
middle
market
capital
markets
and
and
then
finally
we
don't
think
they're
going
to
be
acquiring
Chris McGratty (Head of US Bank Research)
03:32.350
another
bank
they've
been
very
clear
about
there's
enough
organic
momentum
and
that
can
continue
so
you
can
make
a
lot
of
money
even
without
the
help
of
M
and
Steve Grasso (Director of Institutional Sales)
03:39.150
A
kristen
i
think
foreign
banks
you
like
here
and
again
maybe
you
don't
cover
i'm
just
curious
if
there's
any
like
geographies
that
you
find
pretty
interesting
Chris McGratty (Head of US Bank Research)
03:46.310
here
yeah
we
focus
on
the
domestics
but
if
you
think
about
the
universal
the
largest
banks
broadly
they
all
have
a
international
component
right
JP
morgan
morgan
stanley
goldman
sachs
they
have
international
businesses
and
the
capital
markets
tailwinds
across
the
world
are
Chris McGratty (Head of US Bank Research)
03:59.270
really
strong
B
of
A
is
more
of
your
domestic
place
cities
your
international
place
so
you
can
kind
of
get
the
international
exposure
through
the
domestic
banks
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