Joe Kernen (Co-anchor) 00:00.270
tesla shares trading close to a record high yesterday i looked got to four ninety eight at one point yesterday but the closing high i think is like four eighty nine and change we'd almost be there right now for if it's it's only up sixty two so it's very volatile though but
Joe Kernen (Co-anchor) 00:17.390
basically trading in an all time high dan levy is barclays senior auto analyst as it cars is it taxis is it what what is it at this point dan maybe the the the concern about the expiring subsidies or government tax credits held the stock down what's causing the new surge
Dan Levy (Senior Auto Analyst) 00:39.550
maybe the thank thank you joe and andrew maybe the better overarching view is it's it's narrative that that's really what it is is that we are in a stock that has been at this point purely driven by narrative fundamentals at this point are seemingly an afterthought the car
Dan Levy (Senior Auto Analyst) 00:59.080
business is sort of a little bit of yesterday's news the news going forward really is about the path forward in robotaxi optimist humanoid robots that's really what's driving the stock and the strength here and why you have a stock that's trading you know well in excess of two
Dan Levy (Senior Auto Analyst) 01:16.630
hundred times next year 's earnings
Joe Kernen (Co-anchor) 01:19.670
does that mean that you think it's overvalued or does the narrative just reflect what elon 's been able to do in the past i mean it's bad to bet against them
Dan Levy (Senior Auto Analyst) 01:31.830
well and and and i think that that really is the the view for for a lot of us here is and why we stick with with equal weight rating even though it is disconnected we are fundamentally sort of rooted analysts but the reality is is we are in a market that is placing heavy premium
Dan Levy (Senior Auto Analyst) 01:50.750
on AI narratives elon has done a very good job reflecting that they are a beneficiary of AI i think we all know the opportunity of the tams that that are associated with robotaxi autonomous driving humanoid robots sure that you know i think what we would say is be mindful of
Dan Levy (Senior Auto Analyst) 02:10.030
sort of the challenges in unlocking those tams robotaxi there is still a long ways to go to scale these operations and humanoid robots is still really proving the concept that they have but the reality is is we're mindful of the market dynamics that are driving the strength of
Dan Levy (Senior Auto Analyst) 02:25.430
the stock
Joe Kernen (Co-anchor) 02:27.030
doge who dan so much for the anti the stigma from you know being friends with with trump or or advisers to trump but what what about all those bumper stickers stickers that say i bought my tesla before elon lost his mind but do they are they going to peel those off what what
Joe Kernen (Co-anchor) 02:44.950
what about that
Dan Levy (Senior Auto Analyst) 02:47.070
yeah i look i i think that the the the narrative here on elon sort of engagement with the company first of all that was what the AGM was really about and the comp package was really about was making sure that elon musk is engaged and focused on the future of tesla so i think
Dan Levy (Senior Auto Analyst) 03:04.110
they they got that we are seeing an elon musk that is you know relatively more engaged now with with the future of of of the business as opposed to sort of political endeavors which had weighed down the stock before and again you know i think for for for this as far as the stock
Dan Levy (Senior Auto Analyst) 03:20.790
is focused yes they've lost market share you see that in the numbers you know the the stock is focused on their the prospects and autonomous driving and humanoid robots right
Joe Kernen (Co-anchor) 03:31.030
now i mean there was a time when people thought even though liberals love you know climate hysteria and everything else there was there was a thought that they'd never buy another tesla because of the the brand damage from associating elon associating with the bad orange man
Joe Kernen (Co-anchor) 03:47.790
that that has not come to pass
Dan Levy (Senior Auto Analyst) 03:50.390
yeah well and and listen you know we we've seen that already in europe right like sales are down sales for for november just came out they're down twelve percent and it continues the theme we've seen
Joe Kernen (Co-anchor) 04:00.550
of european sales under pressure because of that or because of the expiring subsidies or because of brand damage or or or what
Dan Levy (Senior Auto Analyst) 04:07.190
well europe has been more a story of of brand damage the US we saw that the subsidies expire already back in september so now you're seeing some hangover effects even though there was actually some decent lease pricing that's out there and china is just a very competitive market
Dan Levy (Senior Auto Analyst) 04:23.950
so i think there are a number of factors at play which is why you're going to see sales this year down double digits right we haven't seen a you know a volume decline of that magnitude for for tesla i think the key part here is really resetting the bar on volume and for them in
Dan Levy (Senior Auto Analyst) 04:41.830
the US it's about now showing that you can buy a vehicle with FSD are consumers going to go out and buy new vehicles on the basis of FSD being you know the killer app so to speak in vehicles OK