Andrew Ross Sorkin (Squawk on the Street co-anchor) 00:00.720
let's bring in former UK treasury secretary jim o'neill he is chair at northern grit stone jim it's great to have you on also a great time to kind of assess what we saw this year which was plenty if you go back you know eight or nine months and it was all the talk was you know
Andrew Ross Sorkin (Squawk on the Street co-anchor) 00:16.910
with the tariff panic it was going to be end of US exceptionalism flows away from dollar assets maybe that didn't continue but you did see outperformance by non US equity indexes and also just all kinds of non dollar assets is that the start of a new trend is that just a kind of
Andrew Ross Sorkin (Squawk on the Street co-anchor) 00:33.630
a temporary repricing how are you viewing things
Jim O'Neill (Chair) 00:37.420
well my only stance is i don't know i've been waiting to come for a while and i have to say i wouldn't mind having a bit of money with citadel myself listening to those performance figures that even this year's is good enough to get your money doubled every decade so it's not
Jim O'Neill (Chair) 00:54.060
bad given the things that are out there so but i think it could be the start of a multi year out performance of US stocks by much of the rest of the world and partly because some of the chances going on around the world are even though they're so complex there are some parallels
Jim O'Neill (Chair) 01:13.230
with the noughties which is the last time that happened starting place of obviously relative valuations but you guys know better than me from all the experts you have on your own minds that you know the markets are all about marginal changes what's priced in and what's expected
Jim O'Neill (Chair) 01:30.880
and when you look at all the issues out there one of the things that's fueled this outperformance this year is of because of germany 's big fiscal framework changes and now as we turn the year all the focus on the end to possibly the ukraine russian war and if that happened
Jim O'Neill (Chair) 01:49.230
alone it would probably be very good for european equities still lots of focus quite rightly on whether china is going to do something more to stimulate its consumer and if that happened that would definitely propel further strength of china and then one of the intriguing things
Jim O'Neill (Chair) 02:09.390
looking in the background linked to your remarkably active and never stopping ideas president trump is this sort of thing buried in and around the national security strategy about some kind of notion of a C five which would be a a new country grouping of of the US japan and
Jim O'Neill (Chair) 02:31.800
three of the brics all excluding brazil and fully enough is is sort of i find it so easy to often disagree with donald trump 's mind about so much in essence he's he's if that's for real he's suggesting something which was exactly what i why i came up with the bricks thing
Jim O'Neill (Chair) 02:50.110
twenty nearly twenty five years ago which was for a revamped G seven with those five in along with brazil and a single representation from europe and so there's a there's a lot of reasons why this could be the beginning of a whole new multi decade to end yeah