The uptrend is still very much alive and well, says Fairlead's Katie Stockton
December 24, 2025 • 6m 50s
Joe Kernen (Squawk Box Co-Anchor)
00:00.070
here
joining
us
now
to
talk
next
technicals
katie
stockton
fair
lead
strategies
founder
and
a
CNBC
contributor
i
think
katie
you
were
looking
for
some
some
tough
head
like
advances
but
not
as
even
and
easy
as
we
had
following
the
april
sell
off
but
the
market
is
is
continued
to
Joe Kernen (Squawk Box Co-Anchor)
00:22.110
grind
higher
Katie Stockton (Founder & Managing Partner)
00:24.520
yeah
you
know
i
wouldn't
call
it
a
grind
higher
but
it
certainly
is
very
close
to
new
highs
since
october
mid
october
we've
seen
a
loss
of
momentum
and
you've
seen
you
feel
it
right
you
feel
the
ups
and
downs
it's
more
volatile
it
does
feel
like
it's
taken
on
a
different
Katie Stockton (Founder & Managing Partner)
00:39.840
character
than
it
had
in
the
earlier
stages
off
the
april
low
that's
not
necessarily
bearish
but
what
we
have
seen
is
a
loss
of
intermediate
term
momentum
that
puts
us
on
watch
for
a
deeper
corrective
phase
we're
always
believers
in
breakouts
so
if
we
do
see
the
S
and
P
breakout
Katie Stockton (Founder & Managing Partner)
00:55.910
to
new
highs
that
would
mean
for
us
a
couple
of
good
solid
closes
above
final
resistance
that
sixty
nine
eleven
that
would
be
a
short-term
positive
catalyst
but
otherwise
we're
going
to
assume
that
we're
still
in
this
kind
of
corrective
mode
and
wait
for
a
better
entry
point
and
Katie Stockton (Founder & Managing Partner)
01:12.390
that
can
be
triggered
by
things
like
oversold
upturns
so
there
are
positive
catalysts
that
we
would
certainly
adhere
to
if
we
see
them
just
noting
that
of
course
the
uptrend
is
still
very
much
alive
and
well
why
Joe Kernen (Squawk Box Co-Anchor)
01:25.350
doesn't
a
new
high
count
as
a
breakout
we've
already
gotten
that
what
do
you
mean
if
we
get
a
breakout
yeah
Katie Stockton (Founder & Managing Partner)
01:31.750
so
it's
really
important
to
see
confirmation
we
found
that
new
highs
just
incremental
new
highs
or
if
you
hit
it
intraday
if
you're
not
holding
up
there
can
very
easily
be
a
whipsaw
especially
right
now
of
course
the
market
has
low
volume
especially
in
environments
that
emotions
Katie Stockton (Founder & Managing Partner)
01:49.910
are
running
high
i
don't
know
if
i
would
argue
that
this
is
one
of
them
but
do
you
just
want
to
make
sure
that
i
holds
for
or
if
it's
a
short-term
breakout
a
couple
of
days
to
prevent
any
kind
of
whipsaws
to
the
upside
and
the
same
would
go
for
the
downside
so
it's
more
of
a
Katie Stockton (Founder & Managing Partner)
02:05.070
confirmation
that
we're
looking
for
versus
just
an
incremental
new
high
Joe Kernen (Squawk Box Co-Anchor)
02:09.390
so
you
can
have
a
resistance
that
that
is
above
the
level
where
the
market
has
ever
traded
it's
hard
to
how
do
you
come
up
with
a
number
if
the
markets
never
Katie Stockton (Founder & Managing Partner)
02:20.270
yeah
if
you
recall
in
the
the
breakout
that
occurred
in
the
springtime
we
assigned
a
measured
move
projection
of
about
sixty
eight
eighty
and
that's
why
in
part
we
think
that
we're
seeing
some
of
this
consolidation
that
sixty
eighty
was
just
assuming
the
trajectory
of
the
Katie Stockton (Founder & Managing Partner)
02:35.350
uptrend
the
longer
term
uptrend
would
maintain
itself
if
we
were
to
see
another
breakout
here
very
short
term
you
could
get
to
maybe
seventy
one
hundred
off
that
it's
not
a
very
impressive
breakout
especially
since
the
support
is
about
three
percent
below
as
well
so
risk
reward
Katie Stockton (Founder & Managing Partner)
02:51.270
isn't
great
in
terms
of
those
measured
move
projections
you
had
said
before
or
the
break
you
know
seven
percent
it's
really
eight
or
nine
percent
upside
to
a
longer
term
objective
that's
more
aggressive
with
the
best
we
can
get
to
is
about
seventy
five
hundred
and
these
measured
Katie Stockton (Founder & Managing Partner)
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moves
are
essentially
they
become
resistance
just
by
the
nature
of
the
uptrend
it's
kind
of
the
character
of
the
uptrend
it's
not
an
actual
area
that
we've
seen
selling
pressure
before
Joe Kernen (Squawk Box Co-Anchor)
03:18.190
if
you
were
purely
basing
things
on
fundamentals
you
would
think
that
the
bond
market
you
would
think
that
a
you
know
a
move
lower
in
yields
because
of
the
weak
labor
market
on
the
ten
year
would
be
forthcoming
maybe
down
below
four
maybe
a
three
handle
but
with
the
number
Joe Kernen (Squawk Box Co-Anchor)
03:39.950
yesterday
with
the
GDP
we
saw
you
know
a
couple
of
basis
points
added
to
the
yield
what
what
do
the
charts
say
about
and
we've
had
the
fed
cutting
so
there's
a
lot
of
reasons
to
think
i
mean
that
doesn't
always
hold
with
the
long
end
if
if
the
fed
cuts
obviously
but
is
it
more
Joe Kernen (Squawk Box Co-Anchor)
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likely
that
we
go
to
four
and
a
half
or
go
down
into
the
threes
katie
Katie Stockton (Founder & Managing Partner)
04:03.390
you
know
i'm
more
in
the
threes
camp
but
whenever
a
chart
is
confusing
where
you
have
indications
from
different
time
frames
that
are
different
which
is
what
we
have
right
now
now
it's
usually
a
trading
range
so
of
course
we've
seen
ten
year
treasury
yields
pretty
much
range
Katie Stockton (Founder & Managing Partner)
04:19.110
bound
for
a
long
time
even
short-term
range
bound
so
until
we
see
some
meaningful
move
out
of
that
range
to
the
upside
or
downside
we're
just
going
to
assume
more
of
a
neutral
bias
if
you
look
at
the
monthly
indicators
they
do
mostly
point
lower
for
yield
so
that's
where
my
sort
Katie Stockton (Founder & Managing Partner)
04:36.030
of
threes
bias
comes
from
but
not
until
we
see
a
more
decisive
breakdown
from
what
you
could
call
a
longer
term
triangle
would
we
make
that
call
more
aggressively
so
just
in
terms
of
the
next
support
level
which
is
around
three
sixty
seven
Joe Kernen (Squawk Box Co-Anchor)
04:51.030
support
level
on
bitcoin
it
was
at
seventy
eight
or
what
we're
i
don't
remember
last
time
around
but
you
said
it
could
get
down
in
the
seventies
Katie Stockton (Founder & Managing Partner)
04:59.150
eighty
thousand
six
hundred
was
the
bottom
boundary
of
our
cloud
model
which
has
been
really
relevant
for
bitcoin
it's
since
risen
to
about
eighty
four
eighty
five
thousand
so
that
is
where
their
support
we
have
a
more
constructive
near
term
bias
on
bitcoin
just
given
some
Katie Stockton (Founder & Managing Partner)
05:15.190
indications
that
it's
responding
to
oversold
conditions
however
if
you
look
at
the
monthly
chart
of
bitcoin
there's
been
some
real
deterioration
for
those
that
track
the
momentum
gauges
they've
mostly
rolled
over
to
suggest
that
maybe
it's
not
going
to
be
the
the
cyclical
Katie Stockton (Founder & Managing Partner)
05:29.310
uptrend
that
we
would
hope
maybe
it's
more
of
a
trading
range
or
a
down
cycle
for
cryptocurrencies
as
we
come
into
twenty
six
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reason
to
think
that
that
volatility
is
less
than
it
was
two
years
ago
and
because
we
had
someone
say
that
you
know
there
used
to
be
a
possibility
of
an
there
were
several
eighty
percent
drawdowns
in
in
the
on
the
price
of
bitcoin
this
is
anthony
pompliano
said
maybe
you
get
Joe Kernen (Squawk Box Co-Anchor)
05:55.310
four
maybe
it's
half
this
vault
maybe
you
get
forty
percent
drawdowns
which
is
what
we've
already
had
is
there
any
reason
to
think
that
or
is
eighty
percent
still
possible
Katie Stockton (Founder & Managing Partner)
06:03.520
i
mean
well
i
would
i
think
it's
still
possible
frankly
but
i
don't
think
it
necessarily
is
is
imminent
or
something
people
should
worry
about
you
would
you
would
suspect
that
with
more
institutional
involvement
that
the
volatility
would
go
down
but
as
it
stands
i
don't
think
Katie Stockton (Founder & Managing Partner)
06:17.590
we're
quite
there
yet
and
volatility
is
cyclical
even
just
looking
at
something
like
the
vix
you
can
see
the
cycles
and
volatility
you
kind
of
move
from
a
high
volatility
regime
to
a
lower
volatility
one
and
and
i
i
would
argue
that
this
probably
is
not
going
to
be
necessarily
a
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06:32.110
low
volatility
cycle
usually
when
you
see
that
loss
of
long
term
momentum
it
is
a
more
volatile
environment
and
it
doesn't
mean
it
we
can't
take
advantage
of
that
we
can
simply
use
shorter
term
indicators
to
sort
of
leverage
those
moves
in
bitcoin
and
that
volatility
can
be
a
Katie Stockton (Founder & Managing Partner)
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gift
for
traders