Government tailwinds are baked into stocks, says DCLA's Sarat Sethi
December 26, 2025 • 4m 21s
Leslie Picker (Reporter)
00:00.350
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us
now
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sethi
DCLA
managing
partner
in
a
CNBC
contributor
surat
banks
for
being
here
today
good
morning
to
you
sir
as
we
think
about
the
markets
heading
into
next
year
we
talk
about
the
benefit
of
taxes
and
and
the
one
big
beautiful
bill
act
ultimately
trickling
Leslie Picker (Reporter)
00:19.390
down
into
consumers
bank
accounts
in
terms
of
tax
refunds
and
benefits
how
much
of
that
is
already
priced
into
the
the
markets
that
we're
seeing
right
now
Sarat Sethi (Managing Partner)
00:29.720
i
think
you're
seeing
some
of
it
leslie
the
markets
are
staying
where
they
are
just
because
there
is
this
enthusiasm
that
you're
going
to
get
some
tailwinds
you're
going
to
get
it
from
the
government
you're
going
to
get
it
potentially
from
lower
interest
rates
and
i
think
a
lot
Sarat Sethi (Managing Partner)
00:41.960
of
that
is
baked
in
especially
into
the
higher
valuation
stocks
we're
looking
at
sectors
that
we
think
just
have
been
underappreciated
and
you
know
there's
been
talking
the
last
couple
weeks
of
the
four
ninety
three
but
i
think
if
you
dig
deeper
you
look
at
sectors
like
Sarat Sethi (Managing Partner)
00:54.400
healthcare
you
look
at
commodities
basic
materials
they're
just
under
owned
and
under
and
i
think
most
momentum
investors
don't
really
look
at
them
and
say
hey
you
know
maybe
i
can
trade
in
them
but
we
think
there's
more
earnings
power
and
long
term
investing
in
those
sectors
Leslie Picker (Reporter)
01:11.670
that's
going
to
change
in
twenty
twenty
six
it
feels
like
they've
been
under
owned
and
underappreciated
for
quite
some
time
now
well
Sarat Sethi (Managing Partner)
01:17.750
OK
for
example
just
commodities
and
basic
materials
you're
seeing
copper
huge
demand
for
copper
it's
a
proxy
for
industrial
supply
we
had
higher
GDP
numbers
and
if
you
look
at
copper
you
know
again
just
basic
materials
if
you
think
the
dollar
is
going
to
get
devalued
so
you've
Sarat Sethi (Managing Partner)
01:32.790
got
a
lot
of
money
going
into
gold
and
then
you
look
at
you
know
we
haven't
had
a
copper
mine
built
in
ten
years
so
a
combination
of
inflation
industrial
production
debasement
and
these
things
are
very
small
in
the
S
and
P
so
you
get
any
type
of
incremental
demand
you
can
see
Sarat Sethi (Managing Partner)
01:48.390
stocks
like
freeport
and
you
and
tech
resources
do
really
well
Leslie Picker (Reporter)
01:52.590
freeport
mac
moran
and
thermo
fisher
are
the
two
specific
stocks
you
like
Sarat Sethi (Managing Partner)
01:58.030
yeah
and
thermo
has
just
been
you
know
out
of
favor
like
danaher
if
you
look
at
their
cash
flow
their
growth
rates
and
historically
they've
traded
at
you
know
twenty
one
twenty
two
times
earnings
it's
trading
at
eighteen
times
earnings
we're
getting
demand
back
in
biotech
and
Sarat Sethi (Managing Partner)
02:11.270
pharma
you
know
this
company
is
well
known
to
a
lot
of
investors
and
we
think
you
know
you
want
to
be
in
high
quality
cash
flow
companies
going
into
the
next
couple
of
years
not
to
say
you
don't
want
to
own
the
maps
you
know
the
the
fab
seven
you
can
actually
diversify
and
have
Sarat Sethi (Managing Partner)
02:26.510
earnings
growth
in
other
and
high
quality
companies
that
you
know
not
necessarily
that
you're
playing
in
the
weeds
but
you
want
quality
going
into
the
next
couple
of
years
Leslie Picker (Reporter)
02:35.830
want
cash
flow
and
demonstrably
so
surat
how
do
you
see
then
the
whole
AI
arena
right
now
where
there
there's
so
much
so
much
credit
going
into
this
field
and
so
the
hopes
are
so
high
for
i
guess
a
jackpot
of
a
payoff
Sarat Sethi (Managing Partner)
02:56.590
yeah
and
that's
certain
and
that's
why
i
kind
of
diversification
is
going
to
work
here
because
initially
it
was
free
cash
flow
working
for
capex
you've
now
morphed
into
the
SPVS
and
who's
owning
what
so
really
you
want
to
look
at
companies
that
earn
their
own
cash
flow
and
own
Sarat Sethi (Managing Partner)
03:11.510
it
yes
you
can
be
you
know
you
can
play
in
the
other
parts
of
those
sectors
but
i
think
when
when
when
you
know
debt
is
very
important
here
and
credit
is
going
to
be
really
important
going
into
a
latter
half
of
the
cycle
so
to
your
point
yes
you
can
own
them
but
now
it's
time
to
Sarat Sethi (Managing Partner)
03:27.430
really
diversified
because
underneath
we're
not
really
sure
where
the
liabilities
Leslie Picker (Reporter)
03:33.150
lie
is
the
best
way
to
diversify
next
year
or
as
people
are
kind
of
thinking
about
their
portfolio
allocation
is
it
international
is
it
based
on
sectors
is
it
based
on
other
asset
classes
Sarat Sethi (Managing Partner)
03:44.510
we
look
at
it
more
on
the
sector
basis
i
think
you
can
play
international
through
investing
in
multinational
companies
in
the
US
but
really
it's
a
sector
basis
so
overweight
you
know
we
talked
about
healthcare
commodities
even
financials
financials
are
going
to
really
benefit
Sarat Sethi (Managing Partner)
03:58.310
you've
seen
that
this
year
but
even
more
as
the
capital
markets
open
up
you've
got
more
restructuring
more
M
and
A
activity
i
think
those
are
really
key
ways
to
play
in
the
sector
top
down
and
then
bottoms
up
you
know
stock
selectivity
is
going
to
be
really
going
into
next
year
Sarat Sethi (Managing Partner)
04:15.390
because
you're
going
to
get
companies
that
will
have
earnings
growth
but
the
market
as
a
whole
is
pretty
fairly
valued
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