Market breadth gives us more confidence for 2026 performance, says US Bank's Tom Hainlin
December 26, 2025 • 3m 53s
Leslie Picker (Reporter)
00:00.350
joining
us
for
more
on
the
markets
tom
hainland
national
investment
strategist
at
US
bank
asset
management
good
morning
to
you
sir
i'm
Thomas Hainlin (National Investment Strategist)
00:10.190
curious
Leslie Picker (Reporter)
00:12.070
i'm
curious
as
we
think
about
just
the
last
few
trading
days
of
the
year
and
going
into
next
year
we're
doing
so
at
fairly
lofty
valuations
the
markets
seen
decent
appreciation
this
year
is
that
a
concern
of
yours
as
you
think
about
your
portfolio
heading
into
the
new
year
you
Thomas Hainlin (National Investment Strategist)
00:30.030
know
leslie
i
think
what
was
confidence
building
was
that
the
market
hit
an
all
time
high
on
on
christmas
eve
but
it
wasn't
tech
that
that
hit
all
time
highs
it
was
actually
industrials
and
financials
and
so
seeing
that
broadening
out
across
the
sectors
especially
those
cyclical
Thomas Hainlin (National Investment Strategist)
00:42.830
sectors
i
think
gives
us
a
little
more
confidence
heading
into
the
next
year
you've
also
seen
strong
performance
really
down
cap
and
mid
and
small
cap
stocks
so
it's
not
just
tech
leading
the
way
now
you've
got
those
cyclical
sectors
those
smaller
companies
also
participating
i
Thomas Hainlin (National Investment Strategist)
00:56.070
think
that's
a
helpful
set
up
into
the
new
year
Leslie Picker (Reporter)
00:59.070
you
also
know
that
the
consumer
remains
the
anchor
to
US
growth
and
that's
expected
to
continue
next
year
thanks
to
rate
cuts
and
tax
benefits
from
the
plan
passed
earlier
in
the
year
how
concerned
are
you
about
the
labor
market
kind
of
pouring
cold
water
on
that
Thomas Hainlin (National Investment Strategist)
01:14.260
you
know
as
the
linchpin
right
so
i
mean
consumers
are
spending
money
that
they
earn
so
they
both
have
to
earn
the
money
and
then
the
confidence
to
go
ahead
and
spend
that
so
we're
looking
for
layoffs
that's
kind
of
a
particular
area
of
focus
as
long
as
those
stays
relatively
Thomas Hainlin (National Investment Strategist)
01:26.460
subdued
we
think
that's
a
you
know
a
positive
setup
for
the
consumer
to
continue
to
have
another
good
year
in
twenty
six
which
is
really
the
the
linchpin
of
the
economy
and
the
other
has
just
been
businesses
investing
the
money
that
they're
earning
into
capital
equipment
and
AI
Thomas Hainlin (National Investment Strategist)
01:39.060
and
everything
else
that's
really
driving
the
economy
i
was
going
to
Leslie Picker (Reporter)
01:42.100
say
that's
obviously
been
a
key
area
of
growth
as
well
it's
just
the
AI
economy
how
much
has
gone
into
capex
there
do
you
expect
that
to
continue
in
a
in
a
big
way
or
do
you
think
there
we
could
see
some
changes
on
that
front
just
given
the
size
of
the
investment
this
year
and
Leslie Picker (Reporter)
01:57.670
whether
the
market
will
still
be
open
for
it
next
yeah
Thomas Hainlin (National Investment Strategist)
02:00.430
we
haven't
really
seen
any
changes
in
in
kind
of
the
investment
levels
in
in
in
AI
and
other
productivity
tools
and
those
benefits
are
not
just
flowing
to
the
kind
of
the
you
know
the
picks
and
the
shovels
of
the
AI
industry
but
the
companies
that
are
employing
that
to
to
drive
Thomas Hainlin (National Investment Strategist)
02:14.230
growth
and
productivity
and
maintain
those
profit
margins
so
we
see
continued
investment
in
in
AI
robotics
other
other
capex
in
in
the
technology
sector
again
just
really
driving
that
that
productivity
again
in
the
twenty
twenty
six
Leslie Picker (Reporter)
02:27.990
and
then
in
terms
of
the
top
opportunities
you
see
it's
an
income
and
foreign
equities
where
specifically
within
those
two
buckets
do
you
think
are
key
opportunities
next
year
Thomas Hainlin (National Investment Strategist)
02:39.430
you
know
for
bond
market
investors
you're
starting
with
pretty
pretty
good
yields
but
there's
additional
opportunities
in
the
and
for
example
in
the
mortgage
market
those
mortgages
that
aren't
backed
by
federal
agencies
to
kind
of
capture
that
additional
income
on
the
back
of
Thomas Hainlin (National Investment Strategist)
02:52.750
that
healthy
consumer
and
homeowner
and
then
foreign
equities
both
you
know
europe
and
asia
we
see
opportunities
you
know
valuations
aren't
the
same
that
they
are
here
in
the
united
states
and
you
have
kind
of
positive
monetary
and
fiscal
policies
supporting
growth
and
then
you
Thomas Hainlin (National Investment Strategist)
03:05.910
also
get
that
capture
of
additional
dividend
yield
and
those
cash
tend
to
go
into
share
buybacks
which
again
support
price
appreciation
hey
Steve Liesman (Senior Economics Reporter)
03:13.430
tom
just
real
quick
how
do
you
play
that
foreign
equity
story
is
it
a
broad
based
mutual
fund
that
one
buys
i
mean
you
could
also
buy
US
multinationals
as
well
in
terms
of
capturing
foreign
growth
Thomas Hainlin (National Investment Strategist)
03:24.910
you
know
it's
a
good
question
steve
we
we
prefer
kind
of
broad
allocations
and
and
capturing
also
not
just
those
multinationals
but
those
local
champions
whether
it's
in
in
europe
and
asia
so
you've
got
the
the
fiscal
stimulus
within
europe
you
know
you
want
to
own
those
those
Thomas Hainlin (National Investment Strategist)
03:38.350
local
companies
and
then
asia
is
embarking
also
on
AI
investment
against
some
of
those
companies
aren't
aren't
listed
you
know
globally
there
aren't
us
multi
so
both
the
multinationals
but
also
those
local
champions
and
allocating
that
towards
more
of
a
broad
approach
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